More explanations why public high publicity commercial ASTROLOGERS DESERVE to (at least tactfully) BE Comedy Roasted

 

 More explanations why public high publicity commercial ASTROLOGERS DESERVE to  (at least tactfully) BE Comedy Roasted

Astrology is a pseudo-science that deserves " scientific method as an ongoing process" as illustrated below.    

 

The very nature of  one's own personal observations corroborated with traditions of astrology is  prone to pretentious speculation and confirmational bias of someone's own anecdotes of synchronicity and coincidence.  

 No one lives in anyone else's head perceiving consistent patterns or not

 

 to a particular astrological placement or transit.  It's up to each individual .


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 https://exemplore.com/astrology/How-to-Know-You-Are-Getting-a-Fake-Astrologer

 

 How to know you are getting a fake astrologer

 

More explanations why public high publicity ASTROLOGERS  Commercial DESERVE to Comedy (at least tactfully)  roasted 

  GianPaolo Dicocco, for all his flaws, managed to alert his audience to this article and did an entire video addressing all this:

 https://mylittlemagicshop.com/blogs/magical-words/how-to-identify-a-fake-astrologer

 

Don't waste your money on fake astrologers. To get the best results, know what to look for and research your choice of astrologer before spending any money. Here are ways to gauge who is probably fake and who is worth your time and money.

What Are the Differences Between Real and Fake Astrologers?

  • Real astrologers do not claim also to be psychics and mediums. Astrology is learned. It is not "psychic," nor can it contact the dead.
  • An online astrologer who always goes by just one name is fake. "Celeste" is fake. "Mary" and "Padre" are fake.
  • A fake will tell you about "your stars." A real astrologer will tell you about "your planets."
  • Real astrologers doing real readings will ask for your birth time, date, and place. They also need a birth date, time, and place for anyone you are asking about, such as a spouse. They will tell you truthfully that they can't give you accurate information without these facts.
  • A real astrologer will tell you that sun-sign astrology is very simplified astrology, and that accurate horoscopes are custom-made for individuals and are much more involved.

It's Best to Meet Your Astrologer in Person

If you can make an appointment with and meet an astrologer in person, he or she is probably a genuine practitioner. If the meeting will be online, ask first for the astrologer's references, or to see a certificate (proof the astrologer has taken a standardized test or graduated from an astrology course). Note: Many astrologers are self-taught or have studied with experienced teachers, but might not have taken the tests. Real ones will still give you references. Here is a link to the American Federation of Astrologers (AFA) list of their certified professional astrologers. You will notice there are relatively few.

It is not easy to become an astrologer! The tests for certification are extremely demanding: No computer calculations are allowed, and the candidate might have to travel cross-country to the few cities where supervised tests are given once or twice a year. Legitimate certification tests are also given by the organizations NCGR, ISAR and Kepler College. But an astrologer with good local references is probably fine.

"Intuitive" or "psychic" astrologers might not be lying when they say they think they can "intuit" or use psychic power to "do astrology," but real astrology is never a matter of intuition or psychic power; it's about math and skill.

  • A real astrologer will be glad to give you references.
  • A real astrologer will give you his or her contact information.
  • A real astrologer will never tell you what you "must" do, or that you are "cursed," or that your fate is "written in the stars." It's not.
  • A real astrologer or Tarot reader does not have an offer online for a free introductory reading.
  • A real professional astrologer charges money and will not cut the price.
  • A real professional astrologer does not try to lure you back for more readings with phone calls or by sending tons of emails or texts.
  • A real astrologer does not say your one big chance for love or money is coming up in the next few weeks.
  • A real astrologer does not sell clients "magic" or lucky coins, "healing" crystals, amulets, and so on.

Appropriate Behavior and Rates

  • A horoscope reading cannot solve your personal problems. If your situation is overwhelming, or involves bodily harm, a real astrologer will refer you to counseling or other resources.
  • An astrologer who has been in business only a short time, or is very young, might be the real thing but might not be experienced at interpreting charts for clients.
  • An astrologer who pushes you hard to buy a reading, or sends repeat e-mails, or otherwise makes you uncomfortable, is probably fake.
  • An "astrologer to the rich and famous" is a fake. If his clientele was really the rich and famous, he would be making a good living and not needing to advertise.
  • A real astrologer will take at least a day or two, or even longer, to create your chart and study it before setting up a meeting to interpret it for you and answer your questions.
  • A real astrologer prefers not to give readings over the phone, although sometimes it can't be helped.
  • A real astrologer will give you an hour or a half-hour in which to discuss and answer your questions about your horoscope.
  • A real astrologer charges professional rates for consultations. $100 per hour is about right; some charge as much as $200. Remember that they have worked on your chart and its interpretation before meeting with you. If they are real astrologers, you will not have to have this same reading done over again.
  • Real astrologers often record the session for you, or will let you record the session.
  • Today's astrologers commonly use computers to calculate astrological charts, but proper chart interpretation can be done only by a human astrologer. It's like your doctor: She gets the results of your lab tests, but she has been specially educated as to how to interpret what the numbers mean for you.
  • No real astrologer will ever tell you that horoscopes are "spooky," "shocking," or "scary." Real astrologers don't want to scare people. They want to help people.
  • An astrologer who says you have a terrible chart and there's no hope for your business, love life, or whatever, is fake or very sick in the head; even more so if he suggests your future success depends on buying more readings.
  • A husband and wife team, or parent and child team ("I can't meet you Thursday, but Bob can") who claim that they are both mediums/psychics, is fake.
  • A real astrologer will not be so specific as to say, "You will meet a tall dark stranger," or "Yes, he is having an affair with your best friend," or "You will lose your job in two weeks, then go work at Walmart." They will talk about planetary conditions and likelihoods, saying something like, "Saturn is entering your tenth house, and for the next two years job or career matters may be challenging. It may be help you in this area of your life to become serious and organized."
  • No real astrologer will speculate about your lifespan.
  • A real astrologer cannot tell you the exact date, time, and place you will meet your "soulmate," or what his name is, and what he will look like. To answer those questions, you really need a fake.

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UNFORTUNATELY GianPaolo Dicocco went a bit over the top insane, has since gone a bit incognito from the internet, but he could talk and throw some witty punches with conviction (whether slanderous or libel like or not)  to some highly suspect overrated celebrity skated useful idiot limited hangout DORKS.    (I have strong opinions which are such dorks and why, but they're astrologers who don't particularly bother me personally who I can't say for sure. )   This is so old and Diccoco's videos have been taken downed.  He's long been banned from youtube and hasn't made a presence on rumble or anywhere else I'm aware of.

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 re-winding nearly 5 years of ever so often throwing curve balls in Robert Phoenix's chatroom on his "Fifteen Minutes of Flame" and getting periodically banned

Spiral CosmosArt 
From:spiralcosmosart@yahoo.com
To:Robert Phoenix Morris
Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 9:23 AM
re:  your words Robert " When you first reached out to me and literally demanded that you see/know my chart, it was utterly rude and disrespectful.  They way you came across to me was someone that I would never share those details with."

I'm very sorry for whatever I did to make you feel that way, 
So what would be a polite way as a potential client to ask an astrologer to show him his birth chart as a potential client or or admirer of his work?    Bear mind under no circumstances am  I demanding or trying to get a "free reading" from you, nor trying to waste your time.  Maybe that's how I came across?      Here's some of what I had in mind for asking for your birthchart: 1st of all this article:  How to Tell Real Astrologers From Fakes   When I  wrote requesting your birth data trying to be as absolutely polite as possible QUOTEing myself below:



--- On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 14:31:30 -1000 spiralcosmosart@yahoo.com<spiralcosmosart@yahoo.com> wrote ----

Robert Phoenix,
What is your own birth data for a natal horoscope ?  Its kind  of an ethical standard that whenever I find someone with interesting astrology information (such as yourself), that I know their own birth data as a way to have an idea what their perspective is if I'm going to continue taking them more and more seriously.

- spiralcosmosart. d.o.b.:  (09-15-1971 Bluffton, Ohio USA) 12 noon 


So if that's not polite enough politely giving you my own birth data (not for a free reading or anything) but as a gesture, but with respect that its there.      Would please care to suggest to me a more polite way to ask an astrologer his birth data?  How would you prefer I approach some public commercial Astrologer or Psychic or Tarot reader  or someone with unconventional insight  claiming to know something about astrology while making their own birth data not entirely overtly public?  

I mean if you're in the business of charging money for claiming to know something about others based on their birth data, its only fair that you would reveal that.  

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Many of my emails have been a bunch of links to a lot of doxxed perpetrators of abuse in my early childhood.  They're there as insurance. This research carries the weight and burden of potential danger to myself.  I have entire meme collages on deviant art expressing the caricatures of my dysfunctional family and community members where I was raised that could be interpreteted by astrologers in a very deep and investigatively brilliant matter.   I'm sorry to burden you with this information or distract you.    I do not feel suicidal, but given the amount of research and whistleblowing I've done, with tragedies such as Tracy Twyman, its kind of insurance that I make an impression on astute astrologers such you, Louis Turi, GianPaolo Dicocco,  etc.  who have unconventional ways of interpreting tragedies just in case I should be "suicided"    

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Rest assured I'm taking a voluntarily taking a hiatus from your live chats, but for your reference here's some kind of astrology sense for some of my rudeness: 
- Sincerely, Karl 
Leo Moon Musings and insights of my rude perspective: 
“Play comedy like tragedy and tragedy like comedy.”  - Crispin Hellion Glover



RUBIN & ED is 1 of my favorite Movies starring Crispin Glover replete with a lot of Cat Leo Moon archetypes 

I am the king of the echo people

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